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Indeed, in opposition The fact that so many of our achievements such as the Enlightenment principles on which modern Western societies are based had to be obtained in opposition to traditional religious values should make think Frans de Waal a little bit more: why does he think that the Gnus oppose religion? Oh, I see he believes they want to have some fun by insulting the religious canada goose outlet eu populace.

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